Wednesday, August 30, 2017

High Cholesterol Diet For Building Muscle: Is It Safe?

Is it safe to eat a high cholesterol diet to build muscle?  
In my video "Old School Post-Training Nutrition" I cited research suggesting that a high cholesterol diet may help build muscle.  However, due to widespread belief in the lipid hypothesis and the cholesterol scare, some people wonder whether it is smart to "sacrifice" low serum cholesterol for the sake of building muscle mass.  Some of these people suggest that increasing muscle mass has little or no benefits for health or life expectancy, and thus suggest it is irrational to trade cardiovascular health for what they believe is a merely cosmetic change to one's physique.  Are they right?
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12 comments:

Shameer Mulji said...

There's a huge study just released many in the nutritional community are debating about. Not sure if you've seen. Very interesting though

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm

Don Matesz said...

Yes I saw it. The body of evidence contradicting the low-fat faith is growing....

Stuart said...

Well I would raise the point that oxidized LDL is part of the problem. When one combines that with genotype APOE4 which has defects slowing LDL clearance then LDL can become more oxidized, this can be measured. So if one does not know ones genome type then a nmr or Spectrallcell lab test for LDLparticle# and APOa-/B ratio would be useful to know along with small LDL from excess carbs which also tend to become oxidized.
Heart disease is multi factorial and lef.org has a chart showing 17 factors.
http://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2010/9/No-Cure-for-Heart-Disease/Page-02

Now there can be an opposing viewpoint with still a high fat vegetarian diet that will also work and a read of The Plant Paradox by Dr S Grundry makes for the argument that a lectin avoidance diet is the best approach supported by his research using a lower protein diet. He used Singulex Labs to check inflamation markers TNF-a etc.

Eggs are protein too so your diet is also higher protein which has also been found good for muscle building.

Spunk said...

About 26% of the population are in the geneotype APOE4. The low fat theory started some time ago where it was yet unknown that these people had the problem and then it was assumed it applied to the whole population.
http://www.prescription2000.com/current-research/rx2000-interviews/596-2011-03-10-joe-d-goldstrich-integrative-cardiology

Spunk said...

Losing weight on a higher carb diet
https://freetheanimal.com/2017/08/what-mean-ketosis.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+freetheanimal+%28Free+the+Animal%29

silvertabby said...

Don, if you intend to give any importance to the lipid hypothesis and measurements, then you should think about getting your LDL-P measured and also APOE genotype. Like you, I had good ratios (TC/HDL, APO B/APO A-1) but still had moderately high LDL-P (1500+).

My doctor is a root-cause, integrative, functional type, but believes that high LDL-P along with APOE-4/3 is a bad combination. He believes that particle size doesn't matter if the particle count is high, and too many large LDL particles available to enter the artery wall is just as bad as too many small particles.

He encourages me to eat three eggs (for the rich yolk nutrition) and also some coconut oil, but wants me to reduce other animal fats, even to the point of plants-only other than the eggs–at least until my next blood work, but I'm eating some extra lean poultry.

Spunk said...

Agree fully with the above comments. I have seen many of these reported cases at Dr William Davis's forum and other places.
Another test that should not be missed is a Calcium Score. If one has a higher LDLP# then checking if one is a hyper absorbs fat.. I believe it is called the cholestrol balance test.
http://www.bostonheartdiagnostics.com/patients_assessing_risk.php
If needed the 10mg of zietia would be helpful.
The standard lipid panel is not accurate and is know to proceed variations of 25% in LDL as it is a calculated number not a direct measurement like in the nmr test which one can get for <150$ now. LDL=Total Cholestrol - HDL. this old test is outdated as is most of the research quoted on it in the article.
LDLP# should be <700 all others are likely to be causing calcium deposits which can be revealed with a positive Calcium Score confirming heart disease.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26449135

I would also go easy on the coconut oil, 1tbsp as it too contains saturated fat. I replace sat fat with EVOO.

silvertabby said...

One concern about low-fiber diets is bowel function. Even with months of fruits and vegetables, but no grains or beans, my stools were usually Type 1 on the Bristol Stool Chart. Only after adding one cup of cooked beans (15 g fiber) did I achieve the desirable Type 4 stool--or at least close to it.

I think adding 1300 mg of fish oil might have helped, also. Fish oil helps draw water into the intestine, and a Type 4 stool is 75% water.

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Charles Grashow said...

SO Don - low fat high carb vegan - didn't work so you went paleo - didn't work so you went back to low fat high carb vegan - didn't work so you're now you're eating a "animal-based, very low carbohydrate, high fat (VLCHF) and high cholesterol diet."

1) How long before your new diet doesn't work and you try something else?

2) Why should anyone believe what you have to say? You've cherry-picked study after study to prove that EVERY diet you've tried was the best at the time you were on it.

Charles Grashow said...

"VI suggest that no one needs to know his or her lipoprotein profile to live a healthy and long life. On the other hand, for health and strength one must eat as one has been by natural selection designed to eat, and if you exclude from your food choices anything that is present only because of human artifice, your Inner Guidance System (senses of sight, smell, taste and satisfaction) will guide you to that species-appropriate diet – as it does for all other species. The Gods35 have not made fools of us, we have made fools of    ourselves by trying to usurp the Gods."

SO - why measure your lipids at all??

Charles Grashow said...

"I find the idea that blood tests and nutritional theories only recently developed by fallible human minds provide us with better guidance toward a healthy diet than integrated biological systems that have survived millions of years of natural selection quite comical and absurd.  Like modern man's stupid attempt to 'improve' on natural foods by refining and genetic tinkering, the undue respect given to the dietary hypotheses based on blood tests is another of the many evidences of modern man's immense hubris and defiance of Nature and the Gods.  As our Asatru ancestors have warned for millennia, indulging such hubris always leads to premature demise."


Question - what do you eat in an average day? Curious minds would like to know.